MP: $114.90
CO: $103.90
BTN: $70.60
Hero (SB): $173.90
BB: $119.00
UTG: $112.70
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with Q
K
4 folds, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $3
It's a pretty obvious and trivial raise when folded to me in the small blind. I don't think there is much to say really about my action here. Villain is 14/13 over 200 hands. I think his range here most of the time is going to be pocket pairs and broadways. I think it is wider than normal, given I have been pretty active at the table, but nothing crazy, he is 14/13 after all.
Flop: ($8.00) 7
7 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.00, BB raises to $13, Hero raises to $28, BB folds
I cbet the flop and my plan if called is to barrel most overs as I think his range is primarily medium pps. So if the turn is something like JJ+, I am going to fire the turn and river, since I think a turn bet almost never folds out TT-88, and 66 or a 5 might even call the turn.
He raises me though, pretty small. At the time of the hand, I felt this made almost no sense. This type of player isn't raising a hand like 88-JJ here on the flop almost ever (he will with JJ sometimes if he doesn't 3bet it), and he 3bets AA-QQ almost always. Given I do not think he is calling with suited connectors preflop, I don't think he has a draw worth getting in almost ever. I think he is also likely to flat a hand like 55 on the flop. Therefore, I really can't think of many hands at all that he wants to raise for value here. I opt to rebluff him and I take down the pot.
Any thoughts on the hand are more than welcome in the comments section. Even if you may not agree with the play, I am pretty happy that I was that involved in the thinking of ranges and whatnot to be able to make my decision, trust it, and make my play. Whenever I have played my best poker, I have always went with my thought process 100% of the time. It wasn't always right, but I notice that I trust my reads less when I am playing poorly. So the point of this post is that you need to always trust your reads and to not be afraid ever of being wrong. You will be wrong sometimes, so just be aware that you need to brush it off and keep going with your reads and of course, always be evaluating your plays in your session reviews.
3 comments:
good read on him imo. however, how many better hands are you folding...do you think he's got a lot of Ax hands in his range? nothing wrong with taking down the pot now, though.
NH and Good work on thinking it through!
However I disagree and think your play was spewy.
-I disagree with you assumption that he is so nitty that he isn't defending suited connectors or suited A's K's or Q's here.
-I also disagree that a nit is making moves post flop and pure bluff raising you over half the time he raises you on this board (you need this 3bet bluff to work like 45% of the time to break even here).
-You say you have an active image - I think it is more likely he adjusts by opening his preflop calling range rather than making moves postflop.
-If he is ever semibluffing with equity all his draws are priced into a call putting you in a gross spot and making it difficult to get to showdown when your K high is good.
-However the results seem to back up your read more than mine, so maybe you are right. Eitherway I just don't see him folding enough here whatever his range for doing this is to make your bluff +EV...
Marc:
We may be folding out a hand that is worse for sure like KJ or something, but clearly we cannot bluff catch and we are OOP, so calling and playing the turn and river OOP without the initiative is not a good thing.
RR:
Point #1: re: defending range. He is 14/13, he is not defending suited Qs for sure, probably only suited Ks that are broadway, but he might defend suited aces, but how far down will a 14/13 go? I have a hard time believing he is calling A3s for example. He might defend a suited connector sometimes, but I just don't think it is really often at all. I remember how I played when I was playing that style, new to the game and playing the "Helmuth" style. I just don't see it.
Point #2: re: the frequency in which the villain is purely bluffing me. I think you have a good point here. Nits don't like to pure bluff often at all. But I really struggle to put his preflop range and flop value raising range together and have it make any sort of sense. I mean, he isn't raising really anything for value here, that range is so tiny. And if he did, why make the raise so small? It just doesn't make sense to me. He isn't raising a hand like TT for value or protection and I think he slowplays the nuts here.
Point #3: re: defending wider vs moves postflop. You do make good points here and I am unsure on what to think. Nits DON'T make moves too often postflop. But his line makes no sense at all since I think he has far less draws in his range than you do.
Point #4: re: I did think about that at the time as well. And it is a huge error if he were to reshove a hand like T9 with a FD and I fold. Though in all fairness, I think he just doesn't have many SCs in his range to do this with the begin with, hence why I made the move.
Point #5: re: The results of this hand do not back either of us up, as the sample size is far too small to matter. I think sometimes people try new things and then stop doing them when they fail the first couple times when the player runs into the top of people's range. Conversely like this hand, just because it worked here does not at all mean it was a good play.
RR, you got me thinking about this hand really hard and questioning my thought process which is awesome. I am going to post this hand on leggo and deuces and see what others think. My guess is that they will basically agree with you. It really just all comes down to what we perceive his preflop range to be. If you think he has many hands preflop that could become various draws on this flop, then clearly rebluffing is terrible. If we feel his range is considerably narrower (is that a word?), then maybe it is not a bad play to rebluff.
Thanks for the comment!!
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